We'd like to see gold decline

Jan 21, 2011

Baltimore, Maryland

Big drop in gold yesterday - down $23. Oil fell hard too. Otherwise not much action...

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We'd still like to see a deep decline in the gold price. Too many people are getting onto gold. Most of them have no idea of what they are doing. Like readers of MONEY magazine, they're buying the yellow metal as a speculation. Most likely they're going to lose money. Almost everyone who speculates on gold loses money. Don't ask us why. It's just one of those Iron Laws of investing.

Gold goes up for 10 years straight. Speculators notice. They jump on board. And then the train runs off the tracks.

That's just the way it works.

Besides, remember that this Great Correction is not over yet...not by a long shot. It has barely begun to correct the excesses of the Bubble Era. A quarter of all homeowners are said to be underwater on their mortgages - that still needs to be sorted out. And the whole financial industry - with the collusion of the Fed - is sitting on trillions of dollars' worth of mortgage backed securities, pretending that they are good credits.

There are still major bankruptcies ahead...and deflation of assets prices. And in all the strum and drang of it, the price of gold could go down too.

But if you're acquiring gold, you have some powerful competition. As nations become rich and powerful, they accumulate gold. Those that are getting weak and poor give it up. Here's the Financial Times with the latest news:

"Traders said that gold sales to China had jumped 30-50 per cent since Christmas, driving the cost of kilo bars in Hong Kong more than $3 per ounce above the market price of gold, the highest level since 2008 and an indication of the tightness in the physical market."

"Physical demand has rocketed in China at the start of the year," said Walter de Wet, head of commodities research at Standard Bank.

The wave of Asian buying has propped up gold prices at about $1,360 a Troy ounce, traders and analysts said.

The metal's price has dropped 4.6 per cent from its December record price of $1,430.95, trading at $1,364.10 on Friday, as optimism about prospects for US growth has led western investors to turn their attention away from gold to other commodities and equities. "We have a balanced situation where one part of the world is buying and the other part is selling," said a senior trader in Hong Kong. Chinese and Indian investors are increasingly turning to gold to protect savings against sharply rising food prices.

"Investor buying of gold bars jumped 80 per cent to a record 144 tonnes last year in India, according to GFMS, the precious metals consultancy, while across east Asia bar hoarding was up 125 per cent at a 15-year high. "

Asians build their holdings of gold. Americans add to their supplies of paper money. The Fed is adding some $600 billion of it in the first half of the year. And it is already considering what to do next.

How about this: stop. Admit that you've been a fool. Renounce QE, Keynes and the devil too. And all their works.

But that's not going to happen. Because liquidity masks insolvency; and inflation disguises deflation.

The feds are providing liquidity and inflating the money supply with the only thing they have left - paper money. And as long as the money flows...they can pretend that everything is okay. Things are quiet. Everybody is happy. Confident.

"...experience suggests that quiet periods do not extend indefinitely," wrote Reinhart and Rogoff in their history of monetary crack-ups.

Meanwhile, smart investors are buying gold...and hoping the price falls so they can buy more.

*** Yesterday, we began telling you about our visits with our strategic advisors...that is, people who advise us about what to do with our family money.

One of them runs a fund that focuses on India. The other runs a fund in Germany. Both are looking for bargain stocks - one in the Old World. The other in the New World.

Yes, Asia is the New World now...America is part of the Old World.

And both of our strategic partners told us the same thing: it's gotten a lot harder to find bargains.

So what do you do, we asked. "Just keep looking..." was the answer.

We were explaining the difference between investing for yourself and investing for your family. If you're investing for yourself you usually have fixed objectives - often retirement financing. Since you know when you will need the money, you need to focus on investments that will pay off in the allowable time.

Trouble is, the trends that pay off most tend to be very long term. And very hard to time. Gold, for example, is probably going to pay off in a big way - some day. It has been in a bull market for a decade. It is hard to imagine such a powerful bull market ending in a whimper... Most likely, it will end in a Big Bang...as the price goes vertical.

We've been saying for a long time that the Dow and gold will probably come to the same number, sooner or later. Maybe around 3,000. Maybe 5,000.

Whatever it is, it will be a big pay day for people who've stuck with gold. But what if you need money next year...or the year after? And what if you buy gold today and it drops 50% -- as it did during the early '70s...in the middle of a huge bull market? Bummer, right?

But if you're investing for the family, you can take the long view. You can buy gold, bury it...and forget it. Maybe the next generation will need it.

Just don't forget to tell someone where you buried it!

Bill Bonner is the President & Founder of Agora Inc, an international publisher of financial and special interest books and newsletters.

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3 Responses to "We'd like to see gold decline"

Punit Jain

Mar 7, 2011

Gold will appreciate as long as:
- Dollar (and USA) economic leadership continues to weaken, and no other currency/ country take economic leadership
- Currency managers (governments and Central Banks) continue on the path of printing excessive notes, and fiscal indiscipline
- Volatility increases in world economies, which may be in the form of oil shocks, defaulting governments, unrest / war in many countries
My own feeling is that for 1-1.5 years, Gold may rise sharply to a peak, before starting to fall



Jan 28, 2011

This is contrary to an earlier suggestion where investment in gold was strongly recomended


Balakrishnan R

Jan 21, 2011

Because of the printing of money, the value of money goes down and the value of saved money also goes down. This is the case with across the nations. Why not UN to introduce, International Currency based on their possession of Precious metals and nations can draw this money based on their deposition of precision metals. And this money can be in circulation through out the world. All international trades may be based on this currency. Currency exchange rate may be worked out based on the buying power of local currency.

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