Gold flat. Dow flat.
What's not flat?
Our friend Hugh Hendry. He's either up or down. No flatness for Hugh.
Hugh has been among the most bearish of bears. But now he's become the most bullish of bulls. his fund, Eclectica, is losing money. Reluctantly...Hugh has capitulated.
Is he doing us all a favor? Is he the 'last one to throw in the towel'...the last hold-out, signaling the end of the bull market? Maybe...
Hugh says he "can't look at himself in a mirror." But he also can't sit out what could be a great bull market.
We watched Hugh debate another friend, Liam Halligan. Hugh's style includes mockery, condescension and insults. Very entertaining. You can look it up. U-Tube has it.
Liam seems reasonable in contrast. Sensible. Well-intentioned. But no pushover for Hendry.
The subject on the table was the effect of QE.
Liam said it would lead to inflation. He sees it already.
Hugh said it didn't work...that it wasn't leading to inflation at all, but to lower prices. Except for investment assets.
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"Buy bonds!" said Hugh.
"Sell bonds!" said Liam.
Who will be right? Who knows?
Most likely, they're both right. In sequence. Hugh. Then, Liam. Or as we put it years ago: Tokyo, then Buenos Aires.
An Australian colleague, Vern Gowdie, is visiting us in Baltimore. We had almost the same conversation. It's probably the key conversation for investors, because it affects all your most important financial decisions.
"It looks like we could be in Tokyo for a long time," Vern concluded.
Tokyo has been in an off-again, on-again deflation for 23 years. It has tried bailouts. Boondoggles. QE. And ZIRP.
What has it gotten for all that? A stag-nation. It has tried to raise inflation rates - without success. Instead, its zombie banks keep their money to themselves. Few new businesses are started up. People get older and spend less. The birthrate plummets...and the whole nation totters on...and on...and on.
We predicted the same thing for the US. But we thought it would happen faster.
De-leveraging would take 7 years, we guessed. We are already in year 6. Will it end next year? Doesn't look like it.
Debt levels are actually higher - if you include federal debt.
And since QE does not directly cause inflation, it could go on for years more - as it has in Japan - with no real result...other than much higher government debt.
'QE,' Hugh sneers, 'doesn't work. And it won't work in the future. And it won't cause inflation. Under these conditions, I'll take a government bond with a 4% yield."
Want to see QE not working? Take a look at this. The Fed puts in money. It goes nowhere:
That's why Hugh might sit happily with his government bond for many years.
But not forever, of course. Eventually, lending against the future output of a slack economy will prove disastrous. But that is what happens when you finally get to Buenos Aires. That's when the government moves to "QE Plus"...a strategy designed to by-pass the banking system and get more money into more hands, faster.
It, will happen. But it could be years ahead.
Bill Bonner is the President & Founder of Agora Inc, an international publisher of financial and special interest books and newsletters.
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